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Jimmy Dean Frittata Weight Watchers Points

Jimmy Dean Frittata Weight Watchers Points

Post by algrams on Dec 11, 2017 18:35:49 GMT

Hi all! My apologies if this has been addressed already, but I just joined today, although I am not new to WW.

I buy many products that I heat up, such as Jimmy Dean Turkey Sausage and Veggie Frittatas.

Since eggs are now zero points, is there a way to recalculate the points value under the new Freestyle program? I am thinking that the frittatas, which are 6 points under the old points system, would be reduced somewhat under the new, but I can't find a way to do that?

Thanks all, and I am so thankful for this board!!!

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Post by fullmahina on Dec 11, 2017 21:32:46 GMT

I think I know what you mean.
It seems that many store items in the WW database have not been recalculated to reflect the new Freestyle Smart Points values.
The other night I had a Benje's Naturals vegetarian chili bowl. It comes up on the WW database as having 7 points.
It is all vegetables and beans. 5 grams of fat, 5 grams of sugar. Even assuming the sugar is all added sugar and not naturally occurring (which I don't think is the case), one serving would come to only 3 Smart Points. I'm not claiming that this is a super scientific way to figure things but I put the grams of sugar and fat in the WW recipe builder and came up with that amount. I think that's closer than the 7 points that shows right now in the database.
I counted it as 7 points at the time and grumbled but next time I will count it as 3 SP's.
This is all going to take time, of course, and I think WW should at least make some kind of notation next to packaged foods to let us know whether or not their points values have been updated.
Until then, we'll have to wing it, I guess.
The problem with things that are egg-based is that eggs are relatively high in fat, unlike beans and vegetables. Not sure how that would translate when trying to figure out new points values.
Gone are the days when you could input calories, fat, and fiber and come up with WW points.

zazzles ---I know you are really good at this stuff---any formulas yet?

Last Edit: Dec 11, 2017 21:47:23 GMT by fullmahina

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Post by zazzles on Dec 11, 2017 22:05:21 GMT

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5 grams of fat, 5 grams of sugar. Even assuming the sugar is all added sugar and not naturally occurring (which I don't think is the case), one serving would come to only 3 Smart Points.

I can't see that doing that is a workable solution. If it isn't something like a frozen entree that has distinct pieces of chicken or turkey breast meat which can be estimated in terms of ounces, anything is just a guess. Canned chili would be one thing I'd simply take the points for based on running the NI through the calculator.

I suspect one of WW's goals with Freestyle is to get people eating meals that consist of plain foods from recipes or meals they put together at home. And the points are available for convenience foods and restaurant eating.

Post by fullmahina on Dec 11, 2017 22:19:16 GMT

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5 grams of fat, 5 grams of sugar. Even assuming the sugar is all added sugar and not naturally occurring (which I don't think is the case), one serving would come to only 3 Smart Points.

I can't see that doing that is a workable solution. If it isn't something like a frozen entree that has distinct pieces of chicken or turkey breast meat which can be estimated in terms of ounces, anything is just a guess. Canned chili would be one thing I'd simply take the points for based on running the NI through the calculator.

I suspect one of WW's goals with Freestyle is to get people eating meals that consist of plain foods from recipes or meals they put together at home. And the points are available for convenience foods and restaurant eating.

Yep, I am thinking that any kind of numeric formula would be difficult because the new points are based on food categories, not calories or fat grams.
Running the NI through the recipe builder is what I did for the chili, figuring that the carbs from the beans and veggies would not be counted towards a Freestyle total. I assumed the fat grams would be from added fat. The sugars....not sure and I didn't have the patience to research the sugar grams in all the veggies in the meal.
I realize that points are available for some convenience foods and restaurant items but I believe that they haven't updated all the foods in their database yet.
In any case, I'm not going to agonize. If it looks like something has too many points for its ingredients (as the veggie chili appeared to have) I will go with it and try to figure it out later.

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Post by zazzles on Dec 11, 2017 22:28:18 GMT

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but I believe that they haven't updated all the foods in their database yet.

And they may well never do so. Unless WW provides a tool for manufacturers to use, or the manufacturers provide precise ingredient lists with quantities, WW has no way to determine what part of a product should be treated as zero points.

Sometimes "guesstimating" is all we can do.

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Post by Kitty on Dec 11, 2017 22:31:01 GMT

I have a process that I follow to do that. First, some foods have not been changed. There are I think 3 possible reasons for this. One reason is that the food doesn't meat criteria to be reduced. For example, let's say it has chicken thighs in it. Not going to be reduced. Second, maybe WW just hasn't gotten to it yet (don't know if that has occurred or not. Third, manufacturer/restaurant hasn't provided WW the needed information. In this last case, the recipe may never get adjusted. So my process is roughly this:

1. I run the nutritional info through the calculator. If the calculator says 11 points and WW says 5 then I figure it was updated and stop there (there may be some foods that were previously adjust for veggies and need further adjustment now).

2. I read the ingredient list to see what should be 0 point and what shouldn't. Note that whether sugar is added or natural makes no difference. In any event, I go by the ingredients.

3. Let's say all but one items is 0 point like with the prepared bean salad I bought the other day at the grocery store. Everything else was 9 point. Let's say the only non-zero point ingredient was oil and the item has 10 grams of fat. I know oil doesn't have sugar or protein so I would run the calculatio with 90 calories (10 x 9) and will put in however many grams of sat fat are on the NI. I put in 0 sugar and protein. I will deduct the result from how much the NI alone would say the points would be.

4. Let's say only 1 item is 0 point and the rest has points. I do the above but in reverse. Let's say the item has skinless chicken breast. I estimate the amount. Depending on item, I may be able to weigh it. But, usually I just have to eyeball it. I then use the NI for that amount of the chicken and figure the points and deduct from the total points for the item.

5. Let's say the items is mixed. Some 0 point, some not. I sort of do a hybrid of the above based upon what is easy to calculate and what isn't. This is an estimate so I just do my best but going for the higher point total if unsure.

Post by catfishbabs on Dec 11, 2017 23:01:01 GMT

Before now WW did not reduce points for a processed food that contained 0 point ingredients. Many dish's have fruit / and or vegetables but the NI for the total food was used. Now that more foods are zero points and they are foods that have more calories people feel like the food should be reduced. In some instances this seems ok. In other instances maybe not.
Taking this entree from the tracker right now
Lean Cuisine Culinary Collection Chicken parmesan 10SP . Assuming it has chicken breast and not chicken thigh people may think it should be lower in points. If you look at the total amount of protein it is 18 grams.
2 oz of chicken breast is 17.4 grams of protein and if I remember correctly that was only 1 point. If you reduced it I think probably it would only be by 1 making it9.
Maybe WW thought many processed foods don't contain enough of the zero point foods to make much of a difference.
The website (paraphrasing due to copyright)
1 - foods were chosen because they lay a foundation for healthy eating patterns
2 - The are less likely to be over eaten
3 - Monitored clinical trials showed weight loss even without tracking.

Maybe the processed foods that haven't been updated are not intended to be zero points.

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Post by Kitty on Dec 11, 2017 23:39:57 GMT

catfishbabs , In some cases that might be true. But it is often clear that it is a particular manufacturer's food that has wholesale not been updated. And, I look at the food and how it is made and it is very similar to another food from someone else that has been updated. FWIW, for most frozen food entrees that have chicken in them I think they will go down only 1 or 2 points unless they have other 0 point foods in them.

Post by debinprogress on Dec 11, 2017 23:40:32 GMT

Hi Annie and everybody 👋🏻

I have been lurking on here for quite a while. I have been making a variation of a skinnytaste recipe for a few weeks.   It turns out to be 1 SP on Freestyle.

 This may be a good low SP alternative to the frittatas.  Takes a little more prep time and cookiing time, but they make enough to last you for 6 days.

Sausage and Veggie Omelette Cups
This is a great make ahead low point, low carb, high protein breakfast.
You can use whatever vegetables you like.

Adapted from this skinnytaste recipe:
www.skinnytaste.com/loaded-baked-omelet-muffins/

12 eggs
1/2 cup Jimmy Dean Fully cooked turkey sausage crumbles
1/2 cup fresh spinach, chopped
1/2 cup finely diced mushrooms
4 tablespoons finely diced fresh tomatoes
4 tablespoons diced onions
1/4 cup diced bell pepper
1 tsp olive oil
2 oz reduced fat sharp cheddar (I used Aldi's Fit & Active)
1/4 tsp kosher salt
1/8 tsp black pepper

1. Preheat the oven to 350 F. Spray the muffin pan liberally with cooking spray
2. In a large bowl, whisk the eggs . Season with salt and pepper.
3. Sauté vegetables in olive oil until spinach shrinks down, and vegetables are tender.
4. Mix the cheese and sausage crumbles in with the eggs.
5. Fill and place tins on a cookie sheet and bake for 25 minutes or until set.
6. When cooled, put in pairs in ziploc bags and store in fridge.
7. To reheat, microwave for 1 minute.

Makes 6 servings of 2 per serving

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Post by Old Calculators on Jan 24, 2018 15:55:34 GMT

I joined WW yesterday & was wondering why the old calculators from other WW programs wouldn't work for calculating foods on Freestyle? It still calculates the same categories as past programs....can anyone help?

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Post by diva49 on Jan 24, 2018 16:18:08 GMT

I joined WW yesterday & was wondering why the old calculators from other WW programs wouldn't work for calculating foods on Freestyle? It still calculates the same categories as past programs....can anyone help?

A SmartPoints calculator can be used for FREEstyle because the categories are the same - we are still "doing SmartPoints" just with the addition of the FREEstyle list of zero-point foods: Calories, Saturated Fat (g), Sugar (g), Protein (g).

A PointsPlus calculator cannot be used for FREEstyle because the categories are NOT the same: Total Fat (g), Carbs (g), Fiber (g), Protein (g).

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Last Edit: Jan 24, 2018 16:20:16 GMT by diva49

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Post by diva49 on Jan 24, 2018 16:19:57 GMT

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debinprogress ,- I was just talking about this and looking for this recipe! Thank you!

Did I read that it's 1 SP for two muffins?? Is that right?

If not do you know the SP for these muffins

hpeterson1951 ,
On the skinnytaste site:
Yield: 6 servings, Serving Size: 2 omelets
SP: 2 Freestyle Points

Last Edit: Jan 24, 2018 16:47:27 GMT by diva49

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Jimmy Dean Frittata Weight Watchers Points

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